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JR

  
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Overseas Opinions on US Canidates? |
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Just curious about what you folks overseas think about the two US presidential canidates? Everything I read about the G. W. Bush is pretty negative. _________________
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Obama seems like a bit of a cool dude, he receives the most press coverage over here. We hardly hear about the other guy.
GW has been the object of fun mainly because of his bushisms...
There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee...that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me...you can't get fooled again.
He can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road.
The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case.  _________________
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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obama definately appears to be the preferred choice but i wonder if he seems a bit too slick. that bit when they caught the rev. jackson talking about him on air may well have more than a hint of truth to it.
either way, it seems both are much more aware of ecology and have to be an improvement from mr. comedy himself (sorry, if you're a fan ). _________________
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Mr. Comedy has any fans so don't worry about offending anyone.
Around here, Senator Obama is played against Govenor Palin which is comedy in itself since he isn't running against her.
Never, in a million years, did I ever think that this country would be ready to put someone named Hussein Obama in the White House. Sometimes we amaze me. _________________ Newest and oldest member of the Mura-harem.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking from north of the 49th.. I think a chimp with an organ grinder would be better the GW...I will never be shocked by any thing the americian voter does again.. Bush a 2 termer is unbelievable in my books and it will be yrs before USA digs itself out of the hole he has put them in..
Hussein Obama seems like the best man.. at least he can make it through the day without napping..lmao..I think he will lose though...Not enough minorities vote and well his name is Hussein Obama...whoever wins they have a lot of work to repair the damage that Bush has caused in his 8 yrs...LOL 2 terms simply unbelievable...But at least he got the price of oil high enough to double his family fortune every year at the expense of your average joe. |
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| McCain is just a newer version of Bush ( in sheeps clothing so to speak). He sprouts out the same crap that Bush did but perhaps with a slight twist. Obama though not as seasoned will bring fresh life to the presidency. If McCain wins I maybe moving to Canada haha. |
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Vex444 wrote: | | McCain is just a newer version of Bush ( in sheeps clothing so to speak). He sprouts out the same crap that Bush did but perhaps with a slight twist. Obama though not as seasoned will bring fresh life to the presidency. If McCain wins I maybe moving to Canada haha. |
I can't believe you're buying in to the stuff that media is feeding you. I live in Illinois and have to live with the decisions our illustrious Senator Obama makes. He's about to bring Chicago politics to the White House. I certainly hope you have no emotional attachment to your money because you will be expected to share it with everyone else. Including the name on the "known terrorists" list that the good senator calls his friend. Not to mention the fact that Obama owes Tony Rezco big time. He's sure to get a prominent cabinet seat.
But I will perservere and live through it just as I lived through 8 years of George Bush.
And if by some miracle Senator McCain is elected, then you probably should take your ball and go to Canada. We already have a lack of team players in this country, people with same attitude as yourself. They sit on both sides of the aisle, come from both parties. If-I-can't-have-it-my-way-then-I'm-going-to-leave line of thinking has permeated every corner and every aspect of American life.
Time to buck-up and grow-up and support the majority, whatever that happens to be.
To end this rant, let me state that I am NOT a supporter of John McCain. I am one of the millions of lost souls this election. But I will support whoever wins this election because he will be MY PRESIDENT. _________________ Newest and oldest member of the Mura-harem.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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MIK FOR PRESIDENT !!!
....nice to see some lively debate here.  _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Never talk about politics or religion... is my usual position.
I see McCain/Palin ticket as unbelievably terrible, scary even. (but then I thought Bush would be horrible too ....... oh wait a minute, I was right about Bush) LOL --- Anyway, what I know about both McCain & Palin does NOT make me comfortable one little bit.
Can anyone seriously think that Palin would make a good President? Well, I guess some can, but I cannot. Her knowledge, experience and religious beliefs scare me.
I have been following these candidates fairly closely in recent months.
While I don't agree with everything about the Republicans or the Democrats, I do believe that if I don't vote one or the other I will be wasting my vote.
I would have trouble standing behind anyone who is adamantly pro-life, doesn't believe in evolution, against sex education, or devoutly religious to the point of pushing their beliefs on the rest of us. I don't care for liars, dishonest people or egomaniacs who will do anything to advance themselves and their friends. I'm not in favor of preemptive strikes, war, or taxes without merit. I hope we never have another disaster like we did when the hurricane hit New Orleans. I don't believe that we should bully other countries. I do believe that much of what the US has done in regards to the rest of the world has been about money and oil. We've lost a lot of respect around the world and I would to see us get some of that back.
I would like to see us have National health care. I would like to see our kids get a better education. I'd like to see poor people in this country get a better hope for their future by giving them decent wages.
Greed runs rampant in this country. I don't think the President should get into office just to help his friends and relatives get rich. (see No Child Left Behind ... and see who made money from the software they used-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Bush )
I'm not sure any of them can make the changes that I'd like to see, but I'm pretty sure I know who won't do it. McCain won't. (I bet you saw that coming).
I've probably said way too much now. *ut oh*
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Mik... I can understand your view since you are in the State that Obama represents, so you must see stuff that many of us can't or haven't seen. I know I never liked Ronald Reagan cause he was the Governor of California (where I live) before he was President and I knew a lot about him. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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i just realized that this post should have been how us non-US folk are seeing the candidates - still you can't knock the interesting posts here JR.
so what about it - do we have any more thoughts from members from around the world (i'm amazed that canadian guy hasn't chipped in ). _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| harry_lime wrote: | | i just realized that this post should have been how us non-US folk are seeing the candidates - |
I remembered that this thread was about what overseas people thought about the upcoming election while I was about to post my comments, but ...
I guess I could say that I didn't know where JR lived, so I didn't know which side of the sea he was asking???? lol --- Also, there were 2 comments from other Americans just before mine, so I felt compelled to say something?
Still I'd like to know what some of you think about it. I've a friend in London and we banter back and forth sometimes. (Luckily, he often agrees with me) LOL |
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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my bad, i meant "the thread" SoSoft, not "the post" - the comment wasn't directed at you in particular. just felt we'd all missed JR's original question a bit.  _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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My fault H, I think I took this thread off topic. I didn't think I was and advocate for either candidate, I just wanted to respond to 'maybe I'll move to Canada' bit.
So get the thread back on track Harry and give us your opinion. You are on the other side of the pond after all. _________________ Newest and oldest member of the Mura-harem.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| harry_lime wrote: | obama definately appears to be the preferred choice but i wonder if he seems a bit too slick. that bit when they caught the rev. jackson talking about him on air may well have more than a hint of truth to it.
either way, it seems both are much more aware of ecology and have to be an improvement from mr. comedy himself (sorry, if you're a fan ). |
well i already posted a little about this (see above) but i must admit that i generally have a fairly cynical view towards all politics and often find it hard to see the grey.
On the face of it, Obama comes across as the obvious choice but something doesn't sit quite right in my mind with him although i'd be hard pushed to qualify that with real facts.
My feeling is that with McCain, what you see is pretty much what you get and i think is about as far removed from Bush as he possibly can be within his party.
Having said that, he really has to do that to have a chance of being elected, so again, i think it's a very tough call but i do believe both will be some kind of improvement. _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all of the great, well thought out, responses. Your opinions are pretty much what I expected based on what I've been hearing in the US. As you may have gathered from my avatar, I'm not a GW fan but I did vote for him twice (lesser of two evils I suppose). I'm in a bit of a quandry on this election. I'm a converted democrat (been a republican for about 30 years). I do tend to ignore party lines on a lot of issues and have voted democrat in the pass.
My quandry is that I work in the US defense industry (which makes McCain the obvious choice for me) but my views more align with Obama. That being said, I don't think Obama is ready or able to lead the country in these volitile times. _________________
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Obama is a little glossy, but I think that as politicians go he is worth a shot. His running mate I know little about.
As for the other two, John McCain is just another 4 years of the same, however much he tries to distance himself from the Bush regime. Whatever he says, he supported Bush most of the way and that's enough to discredit him.
Sarah Palin however, I couldn't imagine getting elected in Europe even if she was running against a stick of wood. She is a self interested, virtually psychopathic extreme right version of Margaret Thatcher.
My worry is, I don't care how old his mother is, McCain could drop dead any time at his age. Then we're left with a US president who is further to the right than Khengis Khan.
That's scary.
Palin is the greatest advert for an Obama vote that I could possibly think of. |
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